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Interview With Little Mosque on the Prairie’s Derek McGrath

10 06 2011

Actor Derek McGrath has been leading a notable career within the Canadian entertainment industry,both as an actor as well as a singer.Some of  the actor’s roles on Canadian TV series include a wide range of animated series  such in roles for TV series such as Bakugan Battle Brawlers, Super Why! Wayside and Ruby Gloom.More recently, McGrath  has stated in CBC’S hit sitcom,Little Mosque on the Prairie as the cheerful and open-minded character  Reverend Duncan McGee,throughout the show’s initial three seasons.

With McGrath’s time on Little Mosque having drawn to a close last season and the actor being kind  enough to  partake in an interview with us, we took  the  opportunity to discuss playing the character of McGee,McGrath’s view  on the decision of the producers to  replace his character with Brandon  Firla’s, Reverend William Thorne  as well as the actor’s  return to Little  Mosque in the show’s  previous  fifth season. We also discuss McGrath’s  perspective on Little Mosque’s influence on Canadian culture and as well as how working on the show enhanced  both his acting career and  personal  perspective on the Muslim community.

The actor also  takes the time to share  some of the recent projects he has been working on,including a role on Vision TV’S , She’s The Mayor as well as details on his  latest CD.

Abbas Karimjee: Could you please walk us through this initial process and any challenges which were involved?

Derek McGrath: I was originally contacted by my  agent as per usual with an audition; I received an email with time and place for the audition, a brief description of the character and the material I would be reading. If I remember correctly, I auditioned twice. I was at a nursery, buying trees when I got the call from my agent telling me that I had been offered the role of Magee. I was really excited because I believed the show would have an important impact in terms of reducing misunderstandings about Islam. I also loved the character of Magee.

AK: What was the most challenging part playing Reverend Magee and what techniques did you use to overcome this?

DM:  The challenging part of playing Magee was in keeping him intelligent and witty as opposed to silly and one-dimensional. There are a lot of “over the top”characters on Mosque and I thought it was important to maintain a level of believability with Magee. I kept telling the writers “wise and witty, wise and witty…not silly”.

AK: How do  you relate to the character of Reverend Magee?

DM: I’m a great believer in tolerance. I think it very important to try to see the other guys point of view. I think it’s more powerful to stand up for my own views than it is to attack someone else’s view. That’s a subtle but significant difference. That’s how I think Magee approaches conflict.

AK:How do you  think Magee has developed over the course of the show and what aspirations do  you have  for him as the show draws to a close?

DM: I’m not sure you’re aware of it, but Magee is no longer in the show so I’m afraid I have no aspirations for him whatsoever.

AK:What was your reaction with the casting changes made upon the show’s fourth season which involved the character of Magee being replaced by Brandon Firla’s character, Reverend William Thorne? How do you think  Magee’s absence from the series has  impacted the overall storytelling on the show?

DM: I was very disappointed when I was told that Magee would no longer be part of the Mosque family but I was not bitter. I did not take it personally; I saw it as an artistic decision which obviously made sense to someone. In all honesty, I also believed it was a mistake. The audience reaction was very severe and I believe the decision alienated a large portion of the fan base as evidenced by the enormous number of negative emails sent to the Mosque website. As for Brandon Firla, I think he’s a wonderful actor and perfectly cast to play Thorne.  Again, in all honesty, I think the character as written is too harsh for the show, very funny but not right in the context of Mosque. None of the other characters is mean-spirited. Again, this has nothing to do with Brandon; he’s doing exactly what he was hired to do. Not sure why they didn’t correct this mistake and have us both on the show; but that’s not for me to decide.

AK: What resources did you use to help you effectively portray the character, given the religious background  of the character of  Reverend Magee?

DM: One of the things I did to prepare myself for the show was to read the bible in it’s entirety. And then to read the Koran as well as the Tao Te Ching. I wanted an understanding of where Magee was coming form and also where Amar was coming from. The Tao Te Ching to get another slant.

AK:As an experienced Canadian actor, you have also been involved in animated productions of various TV series including,  Super Why, Wayside and the 13  Ghosts of Scooby Doo  as well as  staged productions such as Little Mosque on the Prairie. Which type of acting do you  prefer to work in and what  particular  benefits  are  associated with your selection?

DM: Personally, I love being in front of a movie camera although there’s a lot to be said for the kind of regular work that a TV series provides. You get your own trailer and all the food you can eat…fabulous!!!

AK: Last season, you returned to the role of Magee after an absence of nearly two years. How did it feel  to return to the Little Mosque production  and what challenges were involved in readjusting to the role?

DM: Mostly, I just had to remember how I had played the role originally and try to be true to what I had already created.

 AK: Reflecting on your recent appearances towards the end of the fifth season, what were some of your favourite moments for the character of Magee, in terms of  his interactions with the  various members of Mercy?

DM: My favourite moments on Mosque were the times I got to work with Neil Crone and Deb McGrath and Sheila McCarthy because they were always so professional and so prepared. No B.S. with them.They show up on time ready to give their absolute best. And their best IS the best.

AK:How many episodes will you appear in for season 6?
DM:None

AK: What is your reaction to  Little Mosque ending this  season and  how do you hope   that  both the show and Magee,  in particular is remembered?

DM: I’m sorry to see the show ending because I think Canada, in fact the world needs shows like Little  Mosque which features people of decidedly different cultures learning to live peacefully alongside each other. As major centers become more and more multi-cultural, tolerance and acceptance will be absolutely necessary if we’re going to have any harmony in our day-to-day lives. I hope the show will be remembered as a genuinely funny and gentle reminder that people are people are people and I hope Magee will be remembered as the warm-hearted embodiment of that principal.

AK:Little Mosque on  the Prairie has  achieved international success , airing in over 68 countries  as  well  as in Canada, with the series premiere, earning a CBC    record breaking viewership of 2. 1 million. What impact do you think  Little  Mosque on the Prairie has had on Canadian culture and why do  you think the show has resonated with viewers so well?  How do you think it represents Canada, given that  the show is the   first of its kind?

DM: I think the show resonates with Canadians firstly because it’s genuinely funny and secondly because it enlightens us about an unfamiliar culture without ever getting preachy. I think they embraced the characters because they are  endearingly human with faults and qualities that we can all recognize in ourselves and in our friends and neighbours. As for the Anglo Saxons in the audience, I think the show was a comfort because it revealed Muslims as less frightening than they may have believed them to be and I think our Muslim audience was delighted to see their sisters and brothers portrayed as regular “joes” with the same hopes and fears as their Anglo Saxon neighbours.I think a lot of Canadians were surprised to see that Muslims have a sense of humour. The rest of course is just the mystery of show business.

AK: How has being a cast member on this series impacted your career and  how has it influenced your personal perspective on the Muslim community?

DM: Since the time that I was a very young boy, I have always insisted on being inclusive so that has not changed much. But, I think I’m much more educated on the subject of Islam. As I mentioned earlier, I read the Koran as a result of being cast in Mosque and of course I worked closely with genuine Muslims for the first time in my life and I could always for instance go to Zaib or Zarqua if I had any questions. Before this show, I was never certain whether or not a Muslim audience might embrace my sense of humour. In fact they did most warm-heartedly. People are people are people and humor is humor is humor.

AK:What other acting projects have your recently been working on, which you would like to share with viewers?

DM: Last summer I shot a series called SHE’S THE MAYOR for VISION TV. I play a corrupt politician named FRANK CRUMB. I think the show is very funny and it seems to be a hit on VISION. I believe the season is complete for this year but I’m certain there will be re-runs on VISION so do please watch for it. A lot of people don’t realize that I’m also a musician; I’m a singer/songwriter and I had the opportunity to work with some of the finest musicians in the world when I recorded my C.D. STRANGER. I warmly invite everyone to give it a listen at derekmcgrathmusic.com.

AK: What message do you have for fans  of the show, as Little Mosque draws to a close?

DM: I would never presume to preach but I will freely offer my opinion.There are only two basic emotions in the world, LOVE and FEAR. Fear makes you small and miserable; love makes you open and joyful. Fear kills; love creates. Choose love!

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13 responses

10 06 2011
Swatie Raja-Karimjee

Great interview. Totally agree that replacing the Rev. McGee was a terrible mistake, a warm and loveable character. I almost dreaded watching the last season with Rev. Thorne and at one point did stop watching it altogether. Happy to see him in the last couple of episodes. Good luck to Derek McGrath.

11 06 2011
The Rungs of A Ladder

Nice one. really appreciate your(Abbas and Team’s) efforts to give interviews of these characters.

11 06 2011
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15 06 2011
Abbas Karimjee

Thank you for your comments, Maaz,I am glad to hear that you have been enjoying the interviews!

Stay tuned for our coming interview with Little Mosque’s Carlo Rota [ Yasser]

20 06 2011
Khan

Come on! Bring Rev. Magee back for season 6!

3 08 2012
Virginia Berman

I just started on Season 4 and was so disappointed to see Rev. McGrath’s character leave the show. Even though I only saw one show with this Thorne character which I am sure is a great actor and funny, I already hate his character and find even though it is meant to poke fun at his arrogance and intolerance it takes some of the warmth and comfort of having two priests of Muslim and Christian working together. I definitely see why ratings went down after that move. I think you should do a 7th season and bring him back.

5 08 2012
Abbas Karimjee

Thanks for your comments , Virigina and welcome to the blog!

Although I can understand why you feel the way you do about the character of Thorne I am sure you will find that the character grows ,[particularly in the fifth season and models how those from different backgrounds can eventually work to develop healthy relationships , despite inaccurate preconceived notions about one another!

I do , however, agree that removing Magee definitely contributed to lower ratings as his character was a favourite.

Please feel free to keep sharing your thoughts!

Abbas

22 02 2013
Geri Wickram

Hi, I’m watching the entire series on Hulu. (Was about to cancel Hulu when I hit on Little Mosque, and now I can’t until I see the last episode..(sorry Hulu. Not enough non-violent, family-friendly material. The other stuff’s too much like regular tv)
Saw two episodes with Thorne. Well, I guess he helps to show people how to deal with over-the-top jerks in a Muslim…and also Christian… way. But yeah, I miss Magee.

23 02 2013
Abbas Karimjee

Welcome, Gerri! Glad that you found Little Mosque to make your Hulu subscription worth the while!

It was definitely a change when Reverend Magee abruptly left, but I am sure you will find the character of Thorne to grow and become more likeable as the show progresses. Do keep sharing your thoughts as you keep watching!

Best wishes,

Abbas

26 02 2013
Geri Blazek

Thanks, you are right, I do enjoy the transformation of Thorne.
You are really good at getting the subtleties of human nature.

18 03 2013
Geri Blazek

Thanks for responding. Insightful, engaging–can’t think of enough adjectives to describe Little Mosque. I saw the entire show. Loved it beyond words. Saddest part, no other show like it left to watch. Muslim and Christian values are not at all dissimilar. Modesty, chastity, respect, dignity– do you know of any other shows like it left to enjoy?

19 03 2013
Abbas Karimjee

Sorry for the delay, Geri! Glad that you enjoyed the show and I agree on how Little Mosque demonstrates the similarities between different faiths and cultures, particularly in contrast with Islam and Christianity.

Yes, I am aware of one show similar to it.It was aired in the USA and is known as The All American Muslim. It was cancelled after one season.Here is the link on why the show was cancelled. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/07/all-american-muslim-cancelled_n_1327264.html

It should be available on Youtube.

I cannot , however, provide an opinion on this as I have not watched it.

I do not know of any other shows to recommend at this time, but should I ever come across one it will likely be covered on the blog.

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